Hola, ker se Kawe v četrtek ne bom mogel udeležiti, da bi tam vprašal:
menjujem originalni radio v Foresterju. CD enota ne deluje, javlja neko napako CD-error, pa tudi runer se mi zdi bolj slab (neki prekinja zvok vsake postaje, ki nima prav dosti signala), da se mi ne zdi popravljat. Notri bi dal enega starejšega JVCja, čisto v redu radio in mp3. Žal bo zgledalo malo bolj pisano, pa kaj hočemo.
Vprašanje pa se glasi: kako potegniti ven stari radio, saj ta nima nobenih odprtin za vilice - sigurno je kdo že kaj menjaval te reči ? Bom rabil še kakšen adapter zadaj mogoče? Pa lep dan, ko je zuni tak kraljevski sonček!
Menjava radia v Foresterju
Menjava radia v Foresterju
LP Nejc
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http://www.scoobymods.com/remove_stock_ ... t5537.html
Time required: Approximately 15 minutes
Step one:
Eject your CD's if there are any in the deck.
As seen below, grab the shifter trim area, with your fingers forming a vice (and effectively giving you leverage from underneath) around the lower edge of the trim. So you'll have four fingers in the shift boot area...pull up, it will pop right out.
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/7151/img04592if.jpg
Additional steps: Some people would like to remove the whole bottom trim from the car for easier use. I however did not, and will explain why later. BUT, if you do want to, simply unplug the harness in the back of the ashtray, unsrew your shift knob (you can leave it attached to the boot) and set the stuff aside. If you have an aftermarket knob, follow the directions you used to put it on.
Step two:
As you see in the picture below there are two PH screws revealed when you pull off the shifter trim. If you can't figure out what to do with them, set yourself on fire and contact a professional. For me, it was easiest to put all the screws in the cup holder.
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/4643/img04603xt.jpg
Step three:
Here, if you did what I did, and didn't remove the shifter trim completely out of laziness and speedyness, you'll want to protect your easily scratched silver trim before removing the larger portion surrounding the radio. Simply drape a cloth or something (actually my Army beret was in the car I just used that) over the top edge of the shifter trim. Sound complicated? It's not and when you get to this step you'll see what I mean.
This part was actually pretty simple, though I hear a lot of complaints of it being difficult.
Wrap some tape around the head of your screwdriver. Grab the exposed portion of bottom of the top trim with your left hand, pulling slightly outward...using the small gap you have just created, insert the screwdriver head with tape into the gap, and being to work the tool upward, pulling slightly as you make progress with the screwdriver.
There are two tabs, both of which are towards the top of the trim piece that you are trying to extricate. With an upward motion, prying motion, and you pulling out on the trim, it should come apart pretty quick and flawlessly. The tape is there so you don't scratch anything.
On mine, the trim piece in the process of coming loose on the right, almost forced the left side to come out, so on the left side, all I had to do was use the screwdriver to un-pop the top tab, and voila! Complete!
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9229/img04615br.jpg
In the picture below, you are able to see by the arrows where the location of the pop tabs are.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7267/img04629zt.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5537/img04641lw.jpg
Additional steps: Now you realize why we draped the cloth if you are doing this the lazy way. The top trim piece will fall forward held in by some harnesses in the back. Remove these harnesses and set aside the piece if that is the way you are doing it. If not, just rest the piece on the shift trim piece, and the cloth you layed down will keep anything from getting scratched.
Step four:
As you notice if you look down at the next picture, you have four readily noticable PH screws to remove, as well as by the arrows you can see the locations where the pop tabs insert into. However, not seen in the picture are two recessed screws, below the four above, with one on each side. Although they are not visable in the picture, they are easily located when you get to this step.
Remove all six screws and the radio will come out. There are three connections on the back of the radio. 1) on the passenger's side is a ground wire and harness, pop the tab and slide it off, 2) the wire harness, pop the tab and pull it out, and 3) the antenna. mine was a bit tricky, which is why I said to bring a pair of pliars. Use the pliars on the metal part (or your teeth, when I found myself without pliars) to pull the antenna out.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2876/img04633rv.jpg
There, you're done, and if you followed the directions, it should have only taken you about 15 minutes.
http://www.scoobymods.com/remove_stock_ ... t5537.html
Time required: Approximately 15 minutes
Step one:
Eject your CD's if there are any in the deck.
As seen below, grab the shifter trim area, with your fingers forming a vice (and effectively giving you leverage from underneath) around the lower edge of the trim. So you'll have four fingers in the shift boot area...pull up, it will pop right out.
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/7151/img04592if.jpg
Additional steps: Some people would like to remove the whole bottom trim from the car for easier use. I however did not, and will explain why later. BUT, if you do want to, simply unplug the harness in the back of the ashtray, unsrew your shift knob (you can leave it attached to the boot) and set the stuff aside. If you have an aftermarket knob, follow the directions you used to put it on.
Step two:
As you see in the picture below there are two PH screws revealed when you pull off the shifter trim. If you can't figure out what to do with them, set yourself on fire and contact a professional. For me, it was easiest to put all the screws in the cup holder.
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/4643/img04603xt.jpg
Step three:
Here, if you did what I did, and didn't remove the shifter trim completely out of laziness and speedyness, you'll want to protect your easily scratched silver trim before removing the larger portion surrounding the radio. Simply drape a cloth or something (actually my Army beret was in the car I just used that) over the top edge of the shifter trim. Sound complicated? It's not and when you get to this step you'll see what I mean.
This part was actually pretty simple, though I hear a lot of complaints of it being difficult.
Wrap some tape around the head of your screwdriver. Grab the exposed portion of bottom of the top trim with your left hand, pulling slightly outward...using the small gap you have just created, insert the screwdriver head with tape into the gap, and being to work the tool upward, pulling slightly as you make progress with the screwdriver.
There are two tabs, both of which are towards the top of the trim piece that you are trying to extricate. With an upward motion, prying motion, and you pulling out on the trim, it should come apart pretty quick and flawlessly. The tape is there so you don't scratch anything.
On mine, the trim piece in the process of coming loose on the right, almost forced the left side to come out, so on the left side, all I had to do was use the screwdriver to un-pop the top tab, and voila! Complete!
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9229/img04615br.jpg
In the picture below, you are able to see by the arrows where the location of the pop tabs are.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7267/img04629zt.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5537/img04641lw.jpg
Additional steps: Now you realize why we draped the cloth if you are doing this the lazy way. The top trim piece will fall forward held in by some harnesses in the back. Remove these harnesses and set aside the piece if that is the way you are doing it. If not, just rest the piece on the shift trim piece, and the cloth you layed down will keep anything from getting scratched.
Step four:
As you notice if you look down at the next picture, you have four readily noticable PH screws to remove, as well as by the arrows you can see the locations where the pop tabs insert into. However, not seen in the picture are two recessed screws, below the four above, with one on each side. Although they are not visable in the picture, they are easily located when you get to this step.
Remove all six screws and the radio will come out. There are three connections on the back of the radio. 1) on the passenger's side is a ground wire and harness, pop the tab and slide it off, 2) the wire harness, pop the tab and pull it out, and 3) the antenna. mine was a bit tricky, which is why I said to bring a pair of pliars. Use the pliars on the metal part (or your teeth, when I found myself without pliars) to pull the antenna out.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2876/img04633rv.jpg
There, you're done, and if you followed the directions, it should have only taken you about 15 minutes.
Zadnjič spremenil subi92, dne 13. Oktober 2009, 11:57, skupaj popravljeno 1 krat.
nejc tuki bi te jaz samo opozoril da ko bos snamlal armaturko ob strani kjer imas zatice le to pocni pazljivo da ti kak ne popusti. drugo nebi smelo biti problem sneti. pa tvoj novi radio bos moral privijaciti na ohisje od originalnega in ga potem nazaj privijacis na armaturko.
za ta error message sem pa prebral k sem mel podobno tezavo da vcasih zna ze pomagati da avto odklopis za nekaj casa z akumulatorja. druga zadeva k jo je za poskust je da snemas zgolj na 650 MB cd-je
ali pa kot si ze omenil tretja resitev za aktero sm se odlocil tudi jaz je da zamenjas radio
lp
za ta error message sem pa prebral k sem mel podobno tezavo da vcasih zna ze pomagati da avto odklopis za nekaj casa z akumulatorja. druga zadeva k jo je za poskust je da snemas zgolj na 650 MB cd-je
ali pa kot si ze omenil tretja resitev za aktero sm se odlocil tudi jaz je da zamenjas radio
lp
Hmmm.
Jasno da so bile težave in jasno da nisem bil fertik v 15-ih minutah. Vzelo mi je dobri dve uri in končal sem pri tem, da sem namontiral nazaj točno tako kot je bilo (da ne nategujem bralcev).
Ampak bom lepo napisal, vse po vrsti, cel postopek.
- okvir od šalthebla in ročka se dasta lepo sneti, minutka pa je.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... euspeh.jpg
- odvijačim tista dva vijaka in probam sneti plastiko sredinske konzole z enim malce zaščitenim šraufcigrom, čisto "by the book", ampak ne gre in ne gre, skoz sem imel slab občutek, da bo počilo. Mogoče bi moral že od začetka malo bolj pogumno, ker sem potlej z malce več sile (kar na roko, izvijač pa je iskal tiste zatiče) uspel na eni strani povleči ven, pa to tako, da sem bil ZIH da sem nekaj utrgal. No zares pa nisem.
- ampak to da je konzola popustila sploh še ni nič, saj se odmakne le za kaka dva tri centi, pol jo pa zablokirajo žice od gretja in nastavljanja ventilacije, ki so speljane tja v notranjost in tega od spredaj sploh ne vidiš.
- ajde grem spet gor na kompjuter, iščem iščem (btw to bi moral itak že na začetku sam poiskat, zakaj mi ni padlo na pamet poguglat - ampak hvala še 1x Subi92) in najdem nekaj uporabnega.
- namreč to, kar je opisano na zgornjem linku, je za modele z avtomatsko klimo, kjer grejo od komand za gretje v notranjost samo nekakšni električni kabli, ki se jih da menda dosti elegantno odklopiti (vsaj tako je videti na slikah).
- tale pdf (2003 Forester 6-CD Changer Installation Instructions), link je:
http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/ixSearc ... ree_pub=13
je že precej pomagal, ampak nisem mogel pogruntat, kaj kaže na slikah 8 in 9;
- nakar najdem še tole:
http://www.scoobymods.com/2003_stereo_i ... tml?t=7238
glej slike "forester SG stereo intall page ##.jpg", ki mi razjasni, kako odklopiti kable od ventilacije.
- ajde spet dol na veter, avto ravno leze v senco.
- odklopim oba kabla (zadaj oz. spodaj na konzoli, čisto pri nogah voznika in sopotnika), plus konektor od ventilatorja (en pa je še ostal, tako da mi je konzolca še visela pred očmi in skoz bila malo na poti) in zdaj lahko potegnem ven toliko, da se pokažejo vijaki od konzole radia.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... nektor.jpg
- takoj odtegnem vse štiri vijake (grejo na trdo), ajde gremo, sam še mal pa smo "stahudgavn". Kolovratim, obračam levo pa desno, da bi videl bolje, kaj je vse zadaj,
- losam še anteno, naletim na konektor avtoradia --- in GA NE MOREM DAT NARAZEN !!!
- nikakor. Probam na silo, sprot še neki malega polomim in ugotovim, da ne morem/znam.
Zdaj mogoče sem bil že malo nervozen, ampak tisti hudič nikakor narazen, konektor je oblečen v neko penco, ma sicer zatič (ki mi je odletel, no pa zato nič hudega) in zdi se mi, da ni po JUS-u, tj. tak kot ga imajo navadno avtoradiji.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... rradia.jpg
Jutri torej vprašam na servis, če obstaja kakšen adapter oz. kako se tega, ki je not, sploh da narazen. Eventuelno bi lahko tudi pocvikal napeljavo in potlej lotal in smodil bužirke, ampak bi se res raje izognil.
Tok za danes, aja posnel sem še neki fotk (a je že kdo raziskoval dalje zakaj se nam enim ne pokaže opcija za pripeti slikce, tudi v IE je ni), tehle ne bom vpenjal v tekst, naj bojo kar kle na koncu.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... torja2.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... toproc.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... lacije.jpg
Jasno da so bile težave in jasno da nisem bil fertik v 15-ih minutah. Vzelo mi je dobri dve uri in končal sem pri tem, da sem namontiral nazaj točno tako kot je bilo (da ne nategujem bralcev).
Ampak bom lepo napisal, vse po vrsti, cel postopek.
- okvir od šalthebla in ročka se dasta lepo sneti, minutka pa je.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... euspeh.jpg
- odvijačim tista dva vijaka in probam sneti plastiko sredinske konzole z enim malce zaščitenim šraufcigrom, čisto "by the book", ampak ne gre in ne gre, skoz sem imel slab občutek, da bo počilo. Mogoče bi moral že od začetka malo bolj pogumno, ker sem potlej z malce več sile (kar na roko, izvijač pa je iskal tiste zatiče) uspel na eni strani povleči ven, pa to tako, da sem bil ZIH da sem nekaj utrgal. No zares pa nisem.
- ampak to da je konzola popustila sploh še ni nič, saj se odmakne le za kaka dva tri centi, pol jo pa zablokirajo žice od gretja in nastavljanja ventilacije, ki so speljane tja v notranjost in tega od spredaj sploh ne vidiš.
- ajde grem spet gor na kompjuter, iščem iščem (btw to bi moral itak že na začetku sam poiskat, zakaj mi ni padlo na pamet poguglat - ampak hvala še 1x Subi92) in najdem nekaj uporabnega.
- namreč to, kar je opisano na zgornjem linku, je za modele z avtomatsko klimo, kjer grejo od komand za gretje v notranjost samo nekakšni električni kabli, ki se jih da menda dosti elegantno odklopiti (vsaj tako je videti na slikah).
- tale pdf (2003 Forester 6-CD Changer Installation Instructions), link je:
http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/ixSearc ... ree_pub=13
je že precej pomagal, ampak nisem mogel pogruntat, kaj kaže na slikah 8 in 9;
- nakar najdem še tole:
http://www.scoobymods.com/2003_stereo_i ... tml?t=7238
glej slike "forester SG stereo intall page ##.jpg", ki mi razjasni, kako odklopiti kable od ventilacije.
- ajde spet dol na veter, avto ravno leze v senco.
- odklopim oba kabla (zadaj oz. spodaj na konzoli, čisto pri nogah voznika in sopotnika), plus konektor od ventilatorja (en pa je še ostal, tako da mi je konzolca še visela pred očmi in skoz bila malo na poti) in zdaj lahko potegnem ven toliko, da se pokažejo vijaki od konzole radia.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... nektor.jpg
- takoj odtegnem vse štiri vijake (grejo na trdo), ajde gremo, sam še mal pa smo "stahudgavn". Kolovratim, obračam levo pa desno, da bi videl bolje, kaj je vse zadaj,
- losam še anteno, naletim na konektor avtoradia --- in GA NE MOREM DAT NARAZEN !!!
- nikakor. Probam na silo, sprot še neki malega polomim in ugotovim, da ne morem/znam.
Zdaj mogoče sem bil že malo nervozen, ampak tisti hudič nikakor narazen, konektor je oblečen v neko penco, ma sicer zatič (ki mi je odletel, no pa zato nič hudega) in zdi se mi, da ni po JUS-u, tj. tak kot ga imajo navadno avtoradiji.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... rradia.jpg
Jutri torej vprašam na servis, če obstaja kakšen adapter oz. kako se tega, ki je not, sploh da narazen. Eventuelno bi lahko tudi pocvikal napeljavo in potlej lotal in smodil bužirke, ampak bi se res raje izognil.
Tok za danes, aja posnel sem še neki fotk (a je že kdo raziskoval dalje zakaj se nam enim ne pokaže opcija za pripeti slikce, tudi v IE je ni), tehle ne bom vpenjal v tekst, naj bojo kar kle na koncu.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... torja2.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... toproc.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s11/ ... lacije.jpg
LP Nejc
Re: Menjava radia v Foresterju
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